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		<title>Emissions rights in a breath</title>
		<link>http://climatefacts.net/article-168-2009-emissions-rights-in-a-breath</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Damien Fields</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[”The politicians in Copenhagen have the power to shape history&#8217;s judgment on this generation. The transformation will be costly, but the shift to a low-carbon society holds out the prospect of more opportunity than sacrifice. Climate change affects everyone, and must be solved by everyone.” Opportunities for whom, one might ask. Everyone? “Many of us, [...]]]></description>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">”The politicians in Copenhagen have the power to shape history&#8217;s judgment on this generation. The transformation will be costly, but the shift to a low-carbon society holds out the prospect of more opportunity than sacrifice. Climate change affects everyone, and must be solved by everyone.”</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Opportunities for whom, one might ask. Everyone?</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">“Many of us, particularly in the developed world, will have to change our lifestyles. We will have to pay more for our energy, and use less of it. The transformation will be costly. The flow of capital tells its own story.”</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">So, who&#8217;s money will pay for all this? Who will make the sacrifice? I&#8217;ll give you a hint. It is not the politicians, nor anyone else in power. It is always the lowest common denominators.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Yes, the politicians in Copenhagen just might have the power to shape history&#8217;s judgment on this generation. And do you want the next generation still to be able to breath, without having to pay for it? If so, please implore them to make the right choice.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Damien Fields</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Quotations from: <a title="The Guardian" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/dec/06/copenhagen-editorial" target="_blank">The Guardian</a><br />
Reference document: <a title="The Copenhagen editorial" href="http://climatefacts.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/the_copenhagen_editorial.pdf" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://climatefacts.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/the_copenhagen_editorial.pdf">The Copenhagen editorial</a></p>
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		<title>What is really the issue on cop15</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ingvar Engelbrecht</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its no question about it. I am a person that have a lot of doubts about the so called AGW. But the real issue here is not about the climate. Whether we have a warming or cooling or if the researchers showing a warming has cheated or not. That is clearly not the real issue. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its no question about it. I am a person that have a lot of doubts about the so called AGW. But the real issue here is not about the climate. Whether we have a warming or cooling or if the researchers showing a warming has cheated or not. That is clearly not the real issue.</p>
<p>The real and very controversial issue is if it is carbon dioxide &#8211; CO2 &#8211; that is causing it.  Why do I say that? Simple. The documents that many countries are supposed to sign in Copenhagen has 3 major parts.</p>
<p>1. Reduce emission of CO2.<br />
2. Introduce a trading mechanism for treading emission permits.<br />
3. Make UN the &#8220;High Court&#8221; for some issues related to this.</p>
<p>That is what he documents in Copenhagen are all about. It is all about CO2.<br />
Now let that sink in, and by all means study all the documentation you can get your hands on to see if that is not true.  Sure there might a lot of other things but the the only things that really have a great impact on the world economy and to you as a person are these taxes and restrictions on CO2. To be able to make those drastic reduction on CO2 emissions governments has to in some way or other tax you for emitting CO2. Don&#8217;t doubt that. You as an individual are going to pay. And other people will make money trading CO2 emission contracts</p>
<p>Now, why this lengthy discussion about CO2. Again, because that is what it is all about. It is not about the climate. It is not about melting ice. It&#8217;s not about saving polar bears. It&#8217;s not about raising ocean levels. It is not about cheating researchers. It is not about climate change, the climate will always change. Unfortunately the debate is fought on the AGW proponents terms, namely about the climate.</p>
<p>The debate should concentrate on making absolutely clear that it is CO2 that influence the climate. What I have seen that has not been proved. I have seen the graph that was presented by Al Gore in &#8220;An Inconvenient Truth&#8221;. That graph DOES NOT show that CO2 causes the temperature to rise. It shows that CO2 increases when the temperature rises. And that is governed by a chemical law. Cold water stores more CO2 than warm.</p>
<p>Get back to basics. PROVE that CO2 has a significant influence on temperature and I will make a new evalution. Stop discussing the climate changes. Concentrate on CO2. I regard it complete insane to take the these drastic measures to lower CO2 emission at considerable costs and reduction in living standards on an assumption (not proof) that CO2 has a significant impact on the climate. What I do know is that an increase of CO2 in our atmosphere will stimulate growth. Check the real issues here.</p>
<p>References:</p>
<p><a href="http://climatefacts.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/UN-Framework-for-COP15-agreement.pdf">UN Framework for COP15 agreement</a><a href="http://climatefacts.net/article-45-2009-co2-is-it-really-a-demon "><br />
CO2 &#8211; is it really a demon?</a></p>
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		<title>Copenhagens carbon footprint</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Sprucefield</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now, we have already discussed the effect of CO2, so based on this, it doesn&#8217;t really have any real impact, but let us just have a look at things, AS IF it were to have an impact as claimed by the climate scientists. The U.N. estimates the 12-day conference will create 40,584 tons of carbon [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, we have already discussed the effect of CO2, so based on this, it doesn&#8217;t really have any real impact, but let us just have a look at things, AS IF it were to have an impact as claimed by the climate scientists.</p>
<p>The U.N. estimates the 12-day conference will create 40,584 tons of carbon dioxide equivalents, roughly as it has been claimed, to be the same amount as the carbon emissions of Morocco in 2006.</p>
<p>There you have it &#8211; the same emissions as a small nation in Western Sahara with some 33 million in population, to accommodate 16.500 delegates, journalists and activists during the 12 day event.</p>
<p>Perhaps, the delegates with their 2.5t individual footprint during the 12 days could learn something from the average moroccan with their average footprint of a mere 1.2Kg per year.</p>
<p>To offset these 40,600 tonnes of carbon with carbon credits, the price would be about €390,000 according to [<a href="http://www.jpmorganclimatecare.com/" target="_blank">jpmorgan climatecare</a>].</p>
<p>This would according to other estimates be equivalent of planting 243,000 trees, to offset the Copenhagen event.</p>
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		<title>Al Gore pulls out of COP15</title>
		<link>http://climatefacts.net/article-40-2009-al-gore-pulls-out-of-cop15</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Sprucefield</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Al Gore pulls the plug on the Copenhagen climate summit due to unforseen changes to his schedule. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not so much about hard science facts, but what is happening around the COP15 meeting.</p>
<p>More than 3000 people had booked tickets at $1200 (DKK 5999) each to Al Gores event, but now, Al Gore has decided to pull out of the COP15 meeting.</p>
<p>The event hosted by <a href="http://www.berlingske.dk/klima/al-gore-aflyser-foredrag-under-cop15" target="_blank">Berlingske Tidende newspaper group</a>, says that the lecture on Thursday was cancelled by Al Gore, because of  &#8220;unforeseen changes in his schedule&#8221;.</p>
<p><em>Unconfirmed</em> rumors has it that he has pulled out in light of the recent climategate events that stems from the leaked emails from the CRU, and him not wanting to answer any inevitable questions about the whole thing.</p>
<p>To add to his griefs, a couple of hollywood screenwriters says that he should be stripped of his oscar for the movie &#8220;an inconvenient truth&#8221;.</p>
<p>Al Gore has previously during public question time refused to answer questions from journalists about some issues with his movie &#8220;an inconvenient truth&#8221;.</p>
<p>Source:</p>
<p><a href="http://climatefacts.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Al-Gore-aflyser-foredrag-un.pdf">Al Gore aflyser foredrag under COP15</a> &#8211; Al Gore cancels his lectures during COP15 &#8211; Danish</p>
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