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		<title>What is really the issue on cop15</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ingvar Engelbrecht</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its no question about it. I am a person that have a lot of doubts about the so called AGW. But the real issue here is not about the climate. Whether we have a warming or cooling or if the researchers showing a warming has cheated or not. That is clearly not the real issue. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its no question about it. I am a person that have a lot of doubts about the so called AGW. But the real issue here is not about the climate. Whether we have a warming or cooling or if the researchers showing a warming has cheated or not. That is clearly not the real issue.</p>
<p>The real and very controversial issue is if it is carbon dioxide &#8211; CO2 &#8211; that is causing it.  Why do I say that? Simple. The documents that many countries are supposed to sign in Copenhagen has 3 major parts.</p>
<p>1. Reduce emission of CO2.<br />
2. Introduce a trading mechanism for treading emission permits.<br />
3. Make UN the &#8220;High Court&#8221; for some issues related to this.</p>
<p>That is what he documents in Copenhagen are all about. It is all about CO2.<br />
Now let that sink in, and by all means study all the documentation you can get your hands on to see if that is not true.  Sure there might a lot of other things but the the only things that really have a great impact on the world economy and to you as a person are these taxes and restrictions on CO2. To be able to make those drastic reduction on CO2 emissions governments has to in some way or other tax you for emitting CO2. Don&#8217;t doubt that. You as an individual are going to pay. And other people will make money trading CO2 emission contracts</p>
<p>Now, why this lengthy discussion about CO2. Again, because that is what it is all about. It is not about the climate. It is not about melting ice. It&#8217;s not about saving polar bears. It&#8217;s not about raising ocean levels. It is not about cheating researchers. It is not about climate change, the climate will always change. Unfortunately the debate is fought on the AGW proponents terms, namely about the climate.</p>
<p>The debate should concentrate on making absolutely clear that it is CO2 that influence the climate. What I have seen that has not been proved. I have seen the graph that was presented by Al Gore in &#8220;An Inconvenient Truth&#8221;. That graph DOES NOT show that CO2 causes the temperature to rise. It shows that CO2 increases when the temperature rises. And that is governed by a chemical law. Cold water stores more CO2 than warm.</p>
<p>Get back to basics. PROVE that CO2 has a significant influence on temperature and I will make a new evalution. Stop discussing the climate changes. Concentrate on CO2. I regard it complete insane to take the these drastic measures to lower CO2 emission at considerable costs and reduction in living standards on an assumption (not proof) that CO2 has a significant impact on the climate. What I do know is that an increase of CO2 in our atmosphere will stimulate growth. Check the real issues here.</p>
<p>References:</p>
<p><a href="http://climatefacts.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/UN-Framework-for-COP15-agreement.pdf">UN Framework for COP15 agreement</a><a href="http://climatefacts.net/article-45-2009-co2-is-it-really-a-demon "><br />
CO2 &#8211; is it really a demon?</a></p>
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		<title>The self-fulfilling prophet</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Damien Fields</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You don&#8217;t have to be right to get right. But this is far to often what debating is about. To get right. Myself, I prefer dialogue. Not necessarily to reach consensus, but to encourage logical arguments, reflection and constructive social change. It&#8217;s alright to have different opinions. But to be able to trust an outcome [...]]]></description>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">You don&#8217;t have to be right to get right. But this is far to often what debating is about. To get right. Myself, I prefer dialogue. Not necessarily to reach consensus, but to encourage logical arguments, reflection and constructive social change.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">It&#8217;s alright to have different opinions. But to be able to trust an outcome of a discussion, at least we have to agree on basic facts. What we can see today, in opinions of climate change, is that we don&#8217;t agree on those basic facts &#8211; the collection of original temperature data &#8211; which practically makes any scientific result based upon such facts useless.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">In a scientific view, It doesn&#8217;t matter who&#8217;s right or wrong. If the basic facts are questionable, for example on such ground that they can&#8217;t be verified as genuine, the findings can not be objectively trusted and should by all means be questioned.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><em>It&#8217;s easy to get right, when you don&#8217;t recognize the right for anyone to say that you are wrong.</em></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Now, Mr. Al Gore has declined to lecture at the climate change conference in Copenhagen 2009. Perhaps that is for the best, but still, the fact remains: It&#8217;s easy to win the debate when it comes to confusion whether it&#8217;s really a debate or a moralizing monologue, further more no questions allowed.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">So, in the meaning of getting right, Mr. Gore seems to have no intention of putting himself in a position where he would have to answer to his previous statements. Therefore, the debate is over. Obviously.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">However, this does not stop the rest of the society from discussing these issues, based upon reliable facts. But for those among us that prefer monologue instead of dialogue, for those who wants the debate to be over, for those I have nothing more to say.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">And therefore I believe that Mr. Gore should finally shut up.</p>
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		<title>Al Gore pulls out of COP15</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Sprucefield</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Al Gore pulls the plug on the Copenhagen climate summit due to unforseen changes to his schedule. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not so much about hard science facts, but what is happening around the COP15 meeting.</p>
<p>More than 3000 people had booked tickets at $1200 (DKK 5999) each to Al Gores event, but now, Al Gore has decided to pull out of the COP15 meeting.</p>
<p>The event hosted by <a href="http://www.berlingske.dk/klima/al-gore-aflyser-foredrag-under-cop15" target="_blank">Berlingske Tidende newspaper group</a>, says that the lecture on Thursday was cancelled by Al Gore, because of  &#8220;unforeseen changes in his schedule&#8221;.</p>
<p><em>Unconfirmed</em> rumors has it that he has pulled out in light of the recent climategate events that stems from the leaked emails from the CRU, and him not wanting to answer any inevitable questions about the whole thing.</p>
<p>To add to his griefs, a couple of hollywood screenwriters says that he should be stripped of his oscar for the movie &#8220;an inconvenient truth&#8221;.</p>
<p>Al Gore has previously during public question time refused to answer questions from journalists about some issues with his movie &#8220;an inconvenient truth&#8221;.</p>
<p>Source:</p>
<p><a href="http://climatefacts.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Al-Gore-aflyser-foredrag-un.pdf">Al Gore aflyser foredrag under COP15</a> &#8211; Al Gore cancels his lectures during COP15 &#8211; Danish</p>
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